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DUCOMMUN INC /DE/ (DCO)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q4 2024 delivered modest top-line growth with net revenue at $197.3M (+2.6% YoY), while margin expansion vs prior year continued; sequentially, revenue and margins stepped down from Q3’s records due to mix and one-time costs in Structures .
- Adjusted EBITDA grew 19% YoY to $27.3M (13.8% margin), but declined sequentially from Q3’s $31.9M (15.8%); GAAP diluted EPS was $0.45 and adjusted EPS $0.75 .
- Backlog ended above $1.0B; defense backlog rose ~+$98M YoY to ~$625M, supported by offloading initiatives and new FMS-related awards (e.g., Bayern‑Chemie Patriot harness order) .
- Management guided mid-single-digit revenue growth for FY 2025, flattish Q1, better Q2, and stronger H2 on Boeing/Airbus recovery and restructuring-driven productivity, pointing to margin progress toward Vision 2027 targets .
- Stock narrative catalysts: defense backlog strength, European defense opportunity, Boeing MAX/787 content gains and H2 production stabilization; near-term headwinds include destocking at Spirit/Boeing and Structures mix/one-time expenses .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Engineered Products mix shift and strategic pricing drove YoY margin expansion: gross margin 23.5% (+180 bps YoY) and adjusted EBITDA margin 13.8% (+180 bps YoY). “We continued to deliver on our VISION 2027 Plan of shifting to more engineered products, executing strategic pricing initiatives…” (CEO) .
- Defense momentum and backlog: Q4 military/space revenue grew $5.1M YoY; defense backlog up ~$98M YoY to ~$625M. “Strong growth in our missile and electronic warfare programs… defense backlog increased $98 million…” (CEO) .
- Interest savings from hedge and lower debt boosted earnings: interest expense fell to $3.6M from $5.4M YoY; hedge pegging 1‑month SOFR at 170 bps on $150M delivered ~$1.8M Q4 savings (CFO) .
What Went Wrong
- Structures mix and one-time charges hurt margins: Structural Systems operating margin fell to 3.6% (vs 7.7% prior year) due to unfavorable mix, Monrovia shutdown charges; adjusted margin 9.2% (vs 14.6% prior year) .
- Industrial pruning reduced revenue: Industrial end-market revenue decreased ~$3.1M YoY as non-core business was selectively pruned .
- MAX/Spirit destocking and Boeing strike impacts: sequential commercial backlog decreased and near-term shipments faced headwinds. “First half… destocking headwinds in Spirit… second half is going to be better than the first.” (CEO) .
Financial Results
Summary Financials (Quarterly)
Segment Performance (Quarterly)
KPIs and Balance/Backlog
Results vs Estimates
- Wall Street consensus via S&P Global could not be retrieved during this session due to API limits; therefore, estimate comparisons are unavailable for Q2–Q4 2024. Future comparisons will default to S&P Global consensus when accessible [GetEstimates error].
Guidance Changes
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- “We made excellent progress in our VISION 2027 commitments… reaching 23% of revenue for Engineered Products… another record full year revenue… Gross margins… 25.1%, another all‑time record.” — Stephen G. Oswald, CEO .
- “Strong growth in our missile and electronic warfare programs… defense backlog increased $98 million… feel great about what lies ahead… including FMS.” — CEO .
- “The hedge resulted in interest savings of approximately $1.8 million in Q4 2024 and will continue to drive significant interest cost savings in 2025 and beyond.” — Suman B. Mookerji, CFO .
- “Adjusted operating income margins in Q4… 8.2%… adjusted EBITDA… exceeding $27 million… expansion of 180 basis points… working towards the 18% goal in our Vision 2027 plan.” — CEO .
- “Structural Systems operating margin decline was driven by unfavorable program mix and one‑time costs… margins expected to fully recover in Q1.” — CFO .
Q&A Highlights
- 2025 outlook and mix: H1 commercial aerospace constrained by Spirit/Boeing destocking; defense growth more even through the year; H2 commercial recovery expected .
- Europe defense momentum: Bayern‑Chemie Patriot order >$40M cabling through 2030; early but promising direct European exposure beyond U.S. primes .
- Structures margins: Roughly half of the Q4 margin decline due to one-time expenses; mix impacts expected to fade; margins to recover in Q1 .
- Legal/professional fees: $0.738M in Q4 and $3.145M FY for unsolicited acquisition offer; not expected to recur in 2025 after selling shareholder’s 13G indicated exit .
- Capex and capacity: Structural plants have capacity without heavy shifts; capex around $20M annually; Electronics expansions are modest and not capital intensive .
Estimates Context
- Consensus EPS and revenue estimates from S&P Global for Q4 2024 and prior quarters were unavailable during retrieval due to API limits; as a result, explicit beat/miss vs Street cannot be assessed here. Future recaps will anchor comparisons to S&P Global consensus when accessible [GetEstimates error].
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Margin resiliency: Despite Structures headwinds, company delivered YoY margin expansion on the back of Engineered Products mix and pricing — favor stocks positioned for margin mix improvements in A&D .
- Defense backlog strength de‑risks near term: ~$625M defense backlog and FMS awards (Bayern‑Chemie) support revenue visibility as commercial normalizes .
- H2 2025 commercial catalyst: Management expects Boeing stability and Airbus growth to lift H2 revenue; watch for MAX/787 content gains and program certifications .
- Interest expense tailwind: Hedge locks favorable base rate on $150M debt, reducing interest cost — supports EPS and cash flow in 2025 .
- Restructuring nearing inflection: Remaining $1.0–$1.5M charges; savings ramp late 2025–26 — monitor margin trajectory, particularly Structures .
- Cash generation: Q4 CFO $18.4M; ongoing working capital unwind targeted; improved inventory discipline should benefit FCF over time .
- Trading stance: Near term, stock may be sensitive to Boeing/Spirit headlines and Structures margin prints; medium term, defense backlog, engineered products mix, and Vision 2027 milestones are constructive for multiple and earnings trajectory .